Discontinued Dance Band CDs
There are a wide range of CDs that feature the British Dance Bands, their vocalists and other vintage artists available.
Each CD is produced on demand and includes jewel case and reproduced artwork a close to the original release as possible.
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THE ORIGINAL BLONDE BOMBSHELL: THE COMPLETE EVELYN DALL RECORDINGS VOLUME ONE MLCD001
Titles: Mrs Worthington; Cohen the Crooner (with Max Bacon, Jack Cooper); Lulus Back in Town; The Generals Fast Asleep (with The Rhythm Brothers); The Lady in Red; Whotcha Gotcha Trombone For; Woe Is Me (with Jack Cooper); Cuban Pete; I'm All In; Lost My Rhythm, Lost My Music, Lost My Man; Organ Grinders Swing; Did You Mean It?; On the Isle of Kitchymiboko; Swing Is In the Air; Sailor, Where Art Thou?; I May Be Poor, But I'm Honest (with Sam Browne, Les Carew); Rhythms O.K. In Harlem; Gangway; Swing High, Swing Low; Poor Robinson Crusoe; Lets Call the Whole Thing Off (with Sam Browne); Fifty Million Robins Cant Be Wrong; Its the Natural Thing To Do [all forgoing with Ambrose and his Orchestra]; No Songs About Love; It’s the Rhythm in Me; The Costa Rumba; You’ll Love the Army; Actions Speak Louder Than Words; Sitting on a Cloud That’s Silver-lined; Hey There, Bellman (with Stephane Grapelli) [all foregoing film soundtracks}.
SOMETHING FOR THE BOYS: THE COMPLETE EVELYN DALL RECORDINGS VOLUME 2 MLMCD003
Titles : Says My Heart; Joseph! Joseph!; I Got Love; Jeepers Creepers; Hold Tight - Hold Tight; Three Little Fishes (Itty Bitty Poo); Beer Barrel Polka; Aint Cha Comin Out?; An Apple for the Teacher (with Jack Cooper); My Heart Belongs To Daddy; Gulliver’s Travels Selection: We’re All Together Now, I Hear a Dream (Vera Lynn), All’s Well (Jack Cooper) and Bluebirds in the Moonlight (Evelyn Dall); My Wubba Dolly (with orchestra); Mr Jones (with orchestra); Pinocchio Selection: Give a Little Whistle (Jack Cooper), Little Wooden Head (Vera Lynn) and I’ve Got No Strings (Evelyn Dall); No Mamma No!; Something For the Boys (Orch: Art Strauss); Hey! Good Lookin’ (Orch: Art Strauss); I Wanna Get Married Part 1 (Orch: Phil Green); I Wanna Get Married Part 2 (Orch: Phil Green) [all foregoing commercial recordings with Ambrose and his Orchestra, unless shown differently.] Do It for the Girl You Love; I'm All In; Lost My Rhythm, Lost My Music, Lost My Man; I Don't Wanna Get Hot; Organ Grinders Swing; Sing as You Swing; You re What’s the Matter with Me; Rhythms OK in Harlem; Salome; Got A Bee in My Bonnet (with Arthur Askey); Keep Cool, Calm and Collect. [all foregoing are film soundtrack recordings.]
STEVE CONWAY – ISNT IT ROMANTIC MLMCD006
Promises JBy; Take Me In Your Arms JBy; I Can’t Believe It Was All Make Believe (Last Night) JBy; The Old Town Crier (Oyez Oyez) PY; Id Break My Heart Again S; Souvenir de Paris PY; Isn’t It Romantic S; In All The World RM; A Shawl of Galway Grey RK; When The World Has Forgotten RK; Maybe It’s Because RK; Autumn Leaves JB; Love Like Ours JB; Good Luck, Good Health, God Bless You PG+H; Don’t Make A Memory Out Of Me JB; Mary Rose NP; Columbia Cavalcade Part 1: We’ll Gather Lilacs PG; Columbia Cavalcade Part 2: If You Were The Only Girl In The World* PG; Vocal Gems from "Showboat" Part 1: Make Believe, Why Do I Love You? PG **; Vocal gems from "Showboat" Part 2: You Are Love PG **; Too Young NP; White Wedding NP; At The End Of The Day PG+H; Bless This House PG+H.
Accompaniments: JB, Jackie Brown; JBy, Jack Byfield; P, Philip Green; H, Hastings Girls Choir; RK, Reginald Kilbey; RM, Ray Martin; NP, Norrie Paramour; S, Studio Group; PY, Peter Yorke. * with Marie Benson, The Beverley Sisters, Teddy Johnson, Steve Race, Johnny Brandon and Ronnie Ronalde. ** Duet with Lizbeth Webb.
THE SAM BROWNE STORY MLMCD007
A Little Kiss Each Morning (Ambrose); Have a Little Faith In Me (Ambrose) Should I? (SB); Blue Turning Grey Over You (Ambrose); What Good Am I Without You? (Ambrose); Two Of Everything (Radio Melody Boys directed by Harry Hudson); One Little Raindrop (Ambrose); Faithfully Yours (Ambrose); It’s The Girl (Harry Hudson); Till Tomorrow (Ambrose); Skirts (Billy Cotton); Sidewalks Of Cuba (Cuban Havana Band directed By Jay Wilbur); Lovely To Look At (Jack Hylton); A Little Bit Independent (SB); I’m Sitting High On A Hilltop (SB); A Star Fell Out Of Heaven (SB); So Deep Is The Night (Jack Hylton); The Melody Maker (Jack Hylton); Ol’ Man River (SB); Cradle Song (SB); Thoughtless (SB); The Old Postman (SB); Wishing Waltz (SB); Pals Of The Lonesome Trail (SB); Heartbreaker (SB).
JACK PLANT AND THE GREAT BRITISH DANCE BANDS MLMCD0011
Titles: Allah’s Holiday (Ray Noble); It Must Be You (Ray Noble); You’re Sunny Disposition And Mine (Ray Noble); Falling In Love Again (Jay Wilbur); I’ll Be Good Because Of You (Ray Noble); I Apologise (Carroll Gibbons); All My Life (Carroll Gibbons); Hey Young Fella - with Nat Gonella (Sidney Lipton); I’m Playing With Fire (Sidney Lipton); I Can’t Remember (Oscar Rabin); Let Me Explain (Marek Webber); Symphony Of The Breeze (Roy Fox); Then I’ll Be Tired Of You (Teddy Joyce); Dames (George Scott Wood); I Only Have Eyes For You (George Scott Wood); June In January (Teddy Joyce); London On A Rainy Night (Teddy Joyce); No Souvenirs (Mantovani); Dancing Is Another Name For Love (Mantovani); Say It (Mantovani); Devil May Care (Mantovani); Until You Fall In Love (Mantovani); Miss Johnson Phoned Again Today (Eric Winstone); Perfidia (Eric Winstone).
THE ROY FOX / DENNY DENNIS COLLECTION MLMCD013
Titles: Love Is a Dancing Thing; Dangerous You; Marylou; A Beautiful Lady in Blue; Moon for Sale; The Touch of Your Lips; The Stars in My Eyes; At The Café Continental; A Pretty Girl Is Like a Melody; You; Its a Sin to Tell a Lie; Serenade in the Night; Did Your Mother Come from Ireland; So Do I; In The Chapel in the Moonlight; No More; Seal It with a Kiss; Sweet Is the Word for You; Blue Hawaii; In The Still of the Night; Rosalie; Sweet Someone; Serenade to the Stars; I Wont Tell a Soul.
THE COMPLETE MARIUS B WINTER AND JACK LEON SESSIONS MLMCD016
What A Perfect Night For Love; Beware Of Love; Never Swat A Fly; Sunny Days; Roamin' Thru' The Roses; An Old-Fashioned Girl; Okay, Baby; A Little Love Song; All Through The Night; Lights Of Paris; Bell-Bottom Trousers; Ya Got Love; Walkin' My Baby Back Home; Walkin' My Baby Back Home (Slow take); Leave The Rest To Nature; I’m So Used To You Now; Goodnight, Sweetheart; Shake And Let Us Be Friends; I’ll Keep You In My Heart Always; Oh! Rosalita; Bubbling Over with Love; I Offer You These Roses.
Tracks 1- 9 are by Marius B. Winter, the remainder by Jack Leon
THE VOICE OF ANNE LENNER MLMCD021
Give Me A Heart To Sing To BF; Getting Around And About; We Were So Young; Fatal Fascination; Where Theres Me Theres You, LL; From One Minute To Another, LL; Crying My Heart Out For You, JL; Miracles Sometimes Happen; I’m In A Dancing Mood; There’s A Lull In My Life; Never In A Million Years (With George Melachrino); One Song; Ten Little Miles From Town; Sing My Heart; What’s New; Sing For Your Supper; A Nightingale Sang In Berkeley Square; Shake Down The Stars; I’m Nobody’s Baby; Room 504; Room 504, JW; Do I Love You?; You And Your Kiss; I Didn’t Know About You, FW.
Key: All titles re with Carroll Gibbons and the Savoy Hotel Orpheans apart from: BF, Carroll Gibbons and his Boy Friends; LL, Louis Levy, JL, Joe Loss, FW, Frank Weir, JW, Jay Wilbur.
NAT STAR THE STERNO HOUSE BAND LEADER MLMCD029
S'posin; Lucky Me Loveable You; Happy Days Are Here Again; High Society Blues; All Alone Monday; Harmonica Harry; Goodbye To All That COC; One Night Alone With You JH; Without A Song; JH Song Of The Flame JH; I Am Only The-Words-You - Are The Melody; With My Guitar And You COC; I'm Yours; Cant We Be Friends? COC; I Surrender Dear VR; Whistling In The Dark; Ho Hum; Heartaches BL; The Longer That You Linger In Virginia GH; Just Humming Along; Should I Be Sorry SB; Soft Lights And Sweet Music LA; Cabin In The Cotton SB; What Would Ja Like For Breakfast? SB.
Vocals by Tom Barratt apart from: Les Allen, Sam Browne, Jack Hodges, Geoff Howard, Billie Lockwood, Cavan O’Connor, Val Rosing.
DEBROY SOMERS 1928 -1933 MLMCD031
I'm Living On Love CRN; I'm Going Back Again To Old Nebraska CRN; Ev'ry Little While CRN; Just A Little Kiss From A Little Miss CRN; Stay Out Of The South; My Flame Is Just The Match For You BS; The Wedding Of The Painted Doll TB; Nobody's Using It Now TB; There's Something About Your That's Different TB; Mothers Smile TB; Once In A While DD; Soldier On The Shelf DD; The Little Things In Life DD; She's Not Worth Your Tears DD; Betty Co-Ed DD; Bathing In The Sunshine * DD; Lady Play Your Mandolin (as Society Serenaders) DD; When I Take My Sugar To Tea DD; Blaze away DD; Masquerade DD; Willow Weep For Me DD; The Moment I Say You DD; Look What You’ve Done DD; When You've Fallen In Love AW.
Vocals are by Cyril Ramon Newton, Tom Barratt, Bobby Sanders, Dan Donovan and Anona Winn.
THE VOICE OF ANNE LENNER VOLUME TWO MLMCD037
Titles: I’ll Pray For You; This Can’t Be Love; When Night Is Through (With Sam Browne); I’ve Got My Eyes On You; Fools Rush In; I’m Nobody’s Baby; Until You Fall In Love; I Can’t Resist You; Only Forever; Pretty Little Petticoat; Goodnight Again; Strike Up The Band; The Best Things In Life Are Free; Moon For Sale; A Pair Of Silver Wings; Let There Be Love; You And Your Kiss; Heart’s Don’t Lie; You And I; I Walked Into A Dream Without Knocking; Concerto For Two; Time Was; Two In Love; Baby Mine.
All titles are with Carroll Gibbons and the Savoy Hotel Orpheans, apart from Track One which is by Carroll Gibbons and his Band.
WHEN THE GREAT BRITISH DANCE BANDS PLAYED HOT MLMCD039
Titles: She Showed Him This - Don Parker and his Dance Band v John Thorne; Just Like A Melody Out Of The Sky - Castle Dance Orchestra (Stan Greening); ‘Leven Thirty Saturday Night - Radio Melody Boys (Harry Hudson) v Sam Browne; Someone - The Night Club Kings (Ray Noble) v Pat O’Malley; In The Moonlight - The Night Club Kings (Ray Noble) v Pat O’Malley; Adeline - Nat Star and his dance Orchestra v Tom Barrett; Without My Gal - Sweet and Low (Cavan O’Connor and Tom Barrett) with Van Phillips and his Orchestra; The Peanut Vendor - Marius B Winter and his Dance Orchestra v Marius B Winter; Choo Choo - Marius B Winter and his Dance Orchestra; Yes, Yes (My Baby Said “Yes”) - Carson Sisters; Open Up Dem Pearly Gates - Addison Sims; She Didn’t Say Yes - Arthur Lally and his band (as the Durium Dance Band) v Les Allen; In a Shanty in Old Shanty Town - Sydney Kyte and his band (as Durium Dance Band) v Three Ginx; How’m I Doin’ - Ray Starita and his band (as The Rhythm Monarchs) v Sam Browne, Nat Gonella and unknown girl; Ooh That Kiss - Terry Mack (McGovern) and his band (as Al Terry and his band) v The Three Admirals; There’s a New Day Coming - Midnight Minstrels (Billy Cotton) v Sam Browne (with trio and solo ‘scatter’); Sentimental Gentleman From Georgia - Ginger Johnson and the Swinging Seven (Austin Croon-Johnson); Black Panther - Ernest Broadhurst and his Band; Just By Your Example - Bert Thomas and his Orchestra Unknown vocalist; Sweet Sue - Joe Paradise and his Music; Get Rhythm in Your Feet - Tommy Kinsman and his band; Who Loves You - Regal Cinema Ballroom Dance Orchestra (Tommy Kinsman); When Day Is Done - Novelty Players; Japanese Sandman - Novelty Players.
WHEN THE GREAT BRITISH DANCE BANDS PLAYED HOT, VOLUME 2 MLMCD043
Stomp Off, Lets Go! - Savoy Hotel Orpheans; Red Hair And Freckles - Arthur Lally as Philip Lewis, v Maurice Elwin; Come On Baby - Arthur Lally as The Rhythm Maniacs, v Elsie Carlisle; He’s A Good Man To Have Around - Arthur Lally as Philip Lewis v Elsie Carlisle; That’s How I Feel About You - Arthur Lally as The Rhythm Maniacs v Maurice Elwin; When I Take My Sugar To Tea - Howard Godfrey v Val Rosing; Tell Me, Are You From Georgia - Howard Godfrey v Les Allen; Pardon Me, Pretty Baby - Howard Godfrey v Les Allen; This is the Missus - Sydney Kyte v Three Ginx; Time Alone Will Tell - Teddy Brown with Novelty Sextet v Jack Plant; Yes, Yes, My Baby Says Yes - Sydney Kyte v Three Ginx; What Would You Do? - The Rhythmic Eight directed by John Firmin v Sam Browne; I Raised My Hat - Stanley Barnett v Phyllis Robins; My Bluebirds Singing The Blues - Stanley Barnett v Phyllis Robins; Ive Found The Right Girl - Larry Brennan v Tom Barrett; My Hats On The Side Of My Head - Ambrose v Sam Browne; Your Gonna Lose Your Gal - Stanley Barnett v Annette Keith; Nobody's Sweetheart – Jay Wilbur as Rhythm Rascals v Sam Browne; Bugle Call Rag - Jay Wilbur as Rhythm Rascals; Somebody Stole My Girl - Jay Wilbur as Swing Rhythm Boys v Jack Cooper; My Girl’s a Rhythm Fan - Scott Wood and his Six Swingers v Sam Costa; Rhythm in my Nursery Rhymes - Scott Wood and his Six Swingers v Sam Costa; Dixieland Selection Part 1 - Billy Cotton and his Band v Trio; Dixieland Selection Part 2 - Billy Cotton and his Band v Cab Quay.
WHEN THE GREAT BRITISH DANCE BANDS PLAYED HOT VOLUME 4 MLMCD051
Downhearted Blues - Savoy Havana Band; Mama’s Gone - Boston Orchestra; No One Knows What it’s all About - Hannan Dance Band (Stan Greening); Hey Hey! Hee Hee! - Geoffrey Goodhart and his Orchestra; Piccadilly Strut - Gilt Edged Four; My Cutey’s Due at Two-to-Two Today - Don Parker and his Band v probably Don Parker; Brainstorm - Debroy Somers Band; Mediterranean Blues - Hal Radford’s Dance Orchestra; Can’t Help Lovin’ Dat Man - Melville Gideon; That’s My Weakness Now - Beth Challis; To-Day Tomorrow, for Ever - Maurice Elwin; Take a Look at Mine - Gracie Fields; My Southern Home - Bohemian Band (Billy Cotton) v Sid Buckman and Joe Ferrie; Deep Hollow - New Mayfair Dance Orchestra (Carroll Gibbons); Nobody’s Sweetheart - Fred Elizalde and his Music; Everything I do I do for You - Rhythm Masters (Pete Mandell) v Tom Barrett; Dream Mother - Rhythm Maniacs v Maurice Elwin; She’s My Slip of a Girl - Eddie Harding Night Club Boys v Harry Bentley; Cosmopolitis - Jack Padbury’s Cosmo Club Six; Moanin’ Low - Jack Hylton and his Orchestra v Ella Logan; Cryin’ For The Carolines - Deauville DB v John Hart; What Wouldn’t I Do for that Man - Spike Hughes and his Decca-Dents v Val Rosing; Fascinating Devil - Spike Hughes and his Decca-Dents v Val Rosing; Stomping - Jimmy Wornell’s Hot Blue-Bottles v Tommy Sullivan.
ELSIE CARLISLE THE EARLY YEARS MLMCD055
Dance And Song Medley Part 1 - Ronnie Munro; Is There Anything Wrong In That - EC; You’re Driving Me Crazy - EC; An Evening In Caroline - Ray S*; Kiss By Kiss - Ray S; Snuggled On Your Shoulder - Ray S; You’ll Find Out - Ray S; Let That Be A Lesson To You - Ray S; Stop The Sun, Stop The Moon - Ray S; I Heard - Ray S; On A Dreamy Afternoon - Ray S; Gosh Darn - Ray S; Why Waste Your Tears - Durium DB; Rock Your Cares Away - Ray S; Mad About The Boy - Ray S; Pu-Leeze Mr Hemingway - Rudy S; Let’s Put Out The Lights - Rudy S*; Pu-Leeze Mr Hemingway - Rolando; I Don’t Want To Go To Bed - Scala DB*; My Darling - Rudy S; Sitting In The Dark - Rudy S*; Under My Umbrella – Ambrose*; Three Wishes - Oscar Rabin*; Let Me Give My Happiness To You - Oscar Rabin. Key: Durium DB, Durium Dance Band; EC, Elsie Carlisle; Scala DB, Scala Dance Band; Ray S, Ray Starita; Rudy S, Rudy Starita. Both Rolando and Scala DB are names used by Harry Hudson. An asterisk indicates a duet with Sam Browne.
DANCE BAND RARITIES MLMCD059
Me-Ow - London Dance Orchestra Dir Corelli Windeatt; Naughty Baby - Marlborough Dance Orchestra (Nat Star); Wait A Bit, Susie - Marlborough Dance Orchestra (Nat Star); Isn’t She the Sweetest Thing - Bert Ralton and His Havana Dance Band; Brown Eyes Why Are You Blue - Bert Ralton and His Havana Dance Band; Kiss Me Curse You - Ronnie Munro and His Dance Orchestra v Robert English; Valentine - Ronnie Munro and His Dance Orchestra v Robert English; Then I’ll Be Happy - Newton Carlisle and His Dance Orchestra (Bert Firman) v Foster Richardson; Five Feet Two Eyes of Blue) - Newton Carlisle and His Dance Orchestra (Bert Firman) v Foster Richardson; Spring Is Here! - Eddie Norman’s Dance Orchestra (Bert Firman); The Pump Song - Eddie Norman’s Dance Orchestra (Bert Firman); Let’s All Go to Mary’s House - Eugene Brockman’s Dance Orchestra (Bert Firman) v. unidentified; Tinker Tailor - Ronnie Munro and His Dance Orchestra v Sydney Nesbitt; The Popular Pair - Opal and Pearl Dance Orchestra v Eddie Grossbart; Playground in the Sky - Tommy Kinsman and his London Frivolities Band v Maurice Elwin; Make My Cot Where the Cot Cot Cotton Grows - Tommy Kinsman and his London Frivolities Band v Maurice Elwin; Firefly - Nat Star and His Dance Orchestra with The Sarony Twins v Maurice Elwin and 2 others; Not My Girl - Nat Star and His Dance Band v Tom Barratt; That’s What I Call Sweet Music - Nat Star and His Dance Band v Maurice Elwin; Why Are Your Lips Not Mine Alone - Herbert Jaeger and His Orchestra; Button Up Your Overcoat - Arcadians Dance Orchestra v Maurice Elwin; My Future Just Passed - Arthur Rosebery and His Dance Band v Len Lees; The Pickup - Arthur Rosebery and His Dance Band v Len Lees; Sunshine Charlie - River Club Orchestra (Arthur Rosebery); v Maurice Elwin (and one other).
THE JESSIE MATTHEWS COMPANION, MLMCD063
One Little Kiss From You (With John Mills And Basil Sydney); I’ll Stay With You; I’m Looking For You; Three Wishes; Dancing On The Ceiling; Dear, Dear (With Barry McKay And Sonnie Hale); When You’ve Got A Little Springtime In Your Heart; Over My Shoulder; Say The Word And It’s Yours; It’s Written All Over Your Face; Half And Half Of Everything Is Yours; Say The Word And It’s Yours; Everything’s In Rhythm With My Heart; It’s Love Again (With Robert Young); (I Nearly Let Love Go) Slipping Through My Fingers; Gotta Dance, Gotta Sing (With Sonnie Hale And Robert Young); It’s Love Again Medley; May I Have The Next Romance With You; There’s That Look In Your Eyes Again (With Louis Borel); Head Over Heels; The Courtesy Of Love; Looking Around Corners For You; Don’t Give A Good Gosh Darn; Gangway; Lord And Lady Whoozies (With Barry McKay); Moon Or No Moon (With Barry McKay); When You Gotta Sing You Gotta Sing; Trusting My Luck; Your Heart Skips A Beat; Souvenir Of Love; My River; Jessie Matthews Memories Part 1; Jessie Matthews Memories Part 2.
THE DURIUM DANCE BAND, MLMCD069
By the Sycamore Tree SB; An Evening in Caroline SB; Goodnight Little Girl Goodnight SB; I Lost My Heart in Heidelberg SB; One Hour with You SB; What Would You Do SB; She Didn’t Say Yes LA; Gypsy Moon LA; Round the Marble Arch SB; It’s That Little Extra Something SB; Everybody’s Going but Me SR; Get Away Old CR; Why Be So Unkind to Me SB; We All Wanna Know Why SB; Why Waste Your Tears? EC; Night Shall Be Filled with Music SB; Threes A Crowd SB; Sweethearts Forever SB; How Are You SB; When They’re on The Love Parade SB; Yes! Mr. Brown Selection SB; Ich Liebe Dich My Dear SB; Bon Voyage to Your Ship of Dreams SB; Tell Me Tonight WB; Parlez Moi D’amour WB; Someone to Care For SB; This Is No Dream SB Vocalists LA, Les Allen; SB, Sam Browne; EC, Elsie Carlisle; CR, Carson Robison; WB, Webster Booth.
THE EARLY BILLY COTTON MLMCD073
Crying for the Carolines, SB, JF, ?; Happy Feet, SB, JF, ?; Puttin' on the Ritz, SB, JF, ?; A Bench in the Park, SB; I'm in the Market for You, SB; You Gotta Be Modernistic, SBu; Have a Little Faith in Me, VR; I've Gotta Have You, SBu; Who am I, CG; One Little Quarrel, CG; I Apologise, CG; Tonight, or Never, CG; Now That You’re Gone, CG; Too Many Tears, AB; It Was So Beautiful, CG; Nightfall, AB; Say it isn't so, CG; My Romance, AB; Keep Your Last Goodnight for me, CG; Just Pleasing You, AB; Please Handle with Care, CG; Rosa Mia, AB; One Little Word Led to Another, SB; Pretending You Care, SB.
Vocalists: AB, Alan Breeze SB, SB, Sam Browne; SBu, Sid Buckman; JF, Joe F errie; CG, Cyril Grantham VR, Val Rosing.